Wye, Delta & the Copper Thermometer
Line-to-Line vs Phase, and Why R Tells Temperature
You clip your ohmmeter across two of the three motor leads on the robot hand’s wrist drive, read 1.0 ohm, and write it in the log. A week later a colleague reads the same motor and gets 1.07 ohm, and now there is an argument about whether the winding is damaged. Nobody is wrong. The motor warmed up between the two readings, and copper is honest about its temperature: the hotter it gets, the more it resists. The number on the meter was never just resistance.
A winding measurement is two facts braided together: how the coils are wired, and how hot the copper is.
A motor only gives you its leads. You can touch the three terminals A, B and C, but the per-phase coil you actually care about is buried inside, wired into either a wye or a delta. So every reading arrives scrambled by the connection, and shifted by temperature. To get back to the truth you have to undo both, in order: first work out what the wye or delta geometry did to your line-to-line number, then correct that number for the temperature the copper was sitting at when you measured it.
By the end, you can
- Explain why a line-to-line measurement is not the per-phase resistance
- Convert line-to-line resistance to phase resistance for both wye and delta windings
- Calculate how copper resistance changes with temperature using the coefficient alpha
- Infer winding temperature from a resistance reading, and record the reference temperature with every log entry
Intuition first
Think of the three windings as three identical lengths of copper hose. You are not allowed to look inside the machine. All you can do is stand at the outside fittings (the terminals A, B, C) and push water from one fitting to another, measuring how hard it is to push. The trouble is that the same three hoses can be plumbed two completely different ways, and the plumbing changes what your push feels like.
In a wye (also called a star), all three hoses meet at one hidden junction in the middle, the neutral. Push from A to B and the water has to travel out through hose A, across the junction, and back through hose B. You feel two hoses in series, so the resistance you read is twice the resistance of a single hose.
In a delta, the three hoses form a closed triangle. Push from A to B and the water splits: a little goes straight down the A-to-B hose, and the rest takes the long way around through the other two hoses in series. You feel one hose in parallel with two hoses in series, which works out lighter than a single hose.
Same three coils, two different answers, and the meter cannot tell you which plumbing it is looking at. You have to know. That is the first correction. The second correction is temperature: copper hoses that are warm push back a little harder, and that extra push is not damage, it is just heat. Once you can read both effects, an ohmmeter becomes a thermometer.
The connection correction
Let be the resistance of one phase winding, the thing you actually want. Let be what your meter reads between two line terminals. The relationship between them is pure series-parallel bookkeeping, and it is different for each topology.
Wye: two phases in series
In a wye the three coils share a common neutral point. A line-to-line probe enters one terminal, runs through that phase to the neutral, and comes back out through a second phase. The third phase dangles off the neutral and carries no current, so it does not count. You are measuring two equal windings end to end:
So a wye motor reading line-to-line has a per-phase resistance of . Halve the meter reading and you are done with the geometry.
Delta: one phase parallel with two in series
In a delta the coils form a triangle with no neutral. Probe two corners and the current splits into two paths: the single phase directly between those corners, and the series pair of the other two phases. One winding () sits in parallel with two windings in series (). Combine them:
So in a delta the meter reads only two-thirds of a phase, and the per-phase resistance is one and a half times the line-to-line value. Notice the trap: a wye and a delta wound from identical coils give different line-to-line readings, and if you assume the wrong topology you will be off by a factor of three between the two conversions.
The temperature correction
Copper is a metal, and a metal’s resistance climbs with temperature. Heat shakes the crystal lattice harder, the conduction electrons scatter more often, and the same wire resists more. Over the modest range a motor lives in, the rise is close to linear and is captured by a single number, the temperature coefficient of resistance, written . For copper,
If you know the resistance at one temperature , the resistance at another temperature is
Resistance rises with temperature, so whenever . A phase at becomes about at , a 16% jump from nothing but heat. That is why two honest people reading the same winding can disagree: they measured it warm and cold.
The same equation, run the other way, turns the disagreement into a measurement. Rearrange for the temperature difference:
Take a cold reference reading with the motor at a known, settled ambient temperature, run the motor, measure , and the ratio tells you how much hotter the copper got. This is the standard way to measure the average winding temperature of a motor without burying a sensor in it, because the winding is the sensor.
See it / Try it
The calculator below does both corrections so you can build intuition for the size of each. The top tool flips between wye and delta and between knowing the line-to-line or the phase value, so you can watch the factor of two and the factor of two-thirds appear. The bottom tool applies the copper temperature law. Try this: set the winding to wye with a line-to-line value of , confirm the phase comes out at , then feed that into the temperature tool as the value at and ask what it becomes at .
Wye / Delta resistance
- Line-to-line R
- 1.000 Ω
- Phase R
- 0.500 Ω
Copper temperature correction
- R at T2
- 0.598 Ω
Ke ↔ Kt
- Ke
- 0.100 V·s/rad
- Kt
- 0.100 N·m/A
- Ke in V/krpm
- 10.47 V/krpm
You should see the phase resistance climb by roughly a quarter as the copper goes from room temperature to a hot running motor, and you should see the delta conversion move the phase number the opposite way from the wye conversion for the same line-to-line reading. Both effects are real, both are always present, and both have to be undone before a resistance number means anything you can compare.
A motor is wye-connected. Your ohmmeter reads 1.2 ohm between two of its line terminals. What is the per-phase resistance?
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Wye puts two phases in series, not in parallel, so the line-to-line reading is larger than a phase, not smaller. Dividing the other way doubles the error.
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Correct. In a wye, a line-to-line probe runs through two equal phase windings in series, so R_LL = 2 R_ph and R_ph = R_LL / 2 = 1.2 / 2 = 0.6 ohm.
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Line-to-line is never the phase resistance directly. In a wye it is twice the phase; in a delta it is two-thirds of it. The connection always changes the number.
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The three-halves factor is the delta conversion, and even there it multiplies the line-to-line value, it does not produce 0.8 ohm from 1.2 ohm. This motor is wye.
You record a winding at 0.50 ohm when the copper is 20 degC. After a run it reads 0.55 ohm. Using copper's alpha of about 0.00393 per degC, the winding is now roughly:
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For copper, resistance rises with temperature, so a higher reading means hotter copper, not colder. The sign is backwards here.
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Correct. (R2/R1 - 1)/alpha = (0.55/0.50 - 1)/0.00393 = 0.10/0.00393 ~ 25 degC of rise, so about 20 + 25 = 45 degC.
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A changing resistance with temperature is normal and expected for copper, not a sign of damage. It is exactly the effect that lets you read temperature from resistance.
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A 10% change is far larger than the noise of a four-wire milliohm measurement; it is a real 25 degC temperature rise, not noise.
Lab
On the bench, always pair a winding-resistance reading with the copper’s temperature. Let the motor sit unpowered until it equilibrates with the room, measure each line-to-line resistance with a four-wire (Kelvin) connection so the lead and contact resistance does not swamp a sub-ohm winding, and write down the ambient temperature next to the number. That cold reading is your reference at a known . From it, decide the topology (count the leads, check the datasheet), convert to per-phase with the wye or delta factor, and optionally correct everything back to a standard so different days and different motors compare cleanly. A resistance with no temperature beside it is half a measurement, and the missing half is the half that starts arguments.
Where alpha comes from, and why copper is such a clean thermometer
The temperature coefficient is not a property of a particular wire, it is a property of the material, inherited from how electrons scatter in the metal’s lattice. Resistivity (the intrinsic resistance of the material, independent of shape) follows the same linear law that the resistance does:
where is the resistivity at the reference temperature . Because resistance is just resistivity scaled by the wire’s geometry, , the geometry cancels out of the ratio and the same governs both. That is why you can use a copper coefficient straight from a table on a winding whose exact length and cross-section you will never know.
Annealed copper sits at a resistivity near at with a temperature coefficient close to . Different references quote slightly different copper values (you will see numbers from about to depending on purity, anneal state, and the reference temperature the table was built around) so for careful work cite the figure with its reference temperature. We use throughout, the annealed-copper value, which is why the worked numbers in this lesson assume references.
The linearity itself is an approximation. The honest law is exponential, , and the familiar is just its first-order Taylor expansion, valid while . Over a motor’s range, even a rise gives , so the linear form is good to a few percent and the error is far smaller than the temperature swing you are trying to catch. Push to hundreds of degrees, or to cryogenic temperatures where the metal’s behavior changes character, and the straight line stops being a safe shortcut.
Grounded in Wikipedia: “Temperature coefficient”, “Electrical resistivity and conductivity”, “Synchronous motor” (CC BY-SA).
Key takeaways
- A line-to-line reading is not the phase resistance; the winding connection always reshapes it.
- Wye: two phases in series, so $R_{LL} = 2R_{ph}$ and $R_{ph} = R_{LL}/2$.
- Delta: one phase parallel with two in series, so $R_{LL} = \tfrac{2}{3}R_{ph}$ and $R_{ph} = \tfrac{3}{2}R_{LL}$.
- Copper resistance rises with temperature at about 0.39% per degC ($\alpha \approx 0.00393$/degC).
- Run the law backwards and the winding becomes its own thermometer: $T_2 - T_1 = \tfrac{1}{\alpha}\!\left(\tfrac{R_2}{R_1} - 1\right)$.
- Always record the winding temperature with the reading, ideally corrected to a standard 20 degC.
A delta-connected motor reads line-to-line. What is its per-phase resistance?
Show worked solution
For a delta, the line-to-line measurement sees one phase in parallel with the other two in series, so . Invert it: . The per-phase resistance is larger than the line-to-line reading, the opposite of the wye case.
A wye motor reads line-to-line at . First find the per-phase resistance, then find what that per-phase resistance becomes at . Use for copper.
Show worked solution
Connection correction first: wye means at .
Temperature correction next, with :
So the phase climbs from to about , a 20% rise from heat alone, with no change in the copper itself.
You log a wye motor’s winding at line-to-line with the copper settled at the room temperature of . After a sustained run you measure line-to-line. Estimate the average winding temperature at the end of the run, and say why the per-phase versus line-to-line distinction does not change the answer.
Show worked solution
Use the resistance ratio to find the temperature rise. Because both readings are taken the same way (line-to-line on the same wye motor), the connection factor of two appears in both and and cancels in the ratio, so you can work straight from the line-to-line numbers without converting to phase first:
So the average winding temperature is about . The wye-versus-delta correction only matters when you compare a resistance to an absolute per-phase spec; for a temperature rise inferred from two readings of the same winding, the geometry cancels and only the ratio matters.
The leads of a motor never hand you the truth directly. They give you a number wearing two disguises: the shape of the wiring and the heat of the copper. Learn to strip both away, in order, and the same ohmmeter that started an argument becomes the quiet instrument that ends it, reading not just resistance but the temperature of the metal that resists.